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Genealogy and AI

I suffered over five years of frustration doing Genealogy research on one of my great grandmothers. Ancestry.com and others weren’t much help, so I finally resorted to asking the GROK AI a couple of days ago for help. It went like this:

Me:

Margaret Elizabeth Evans Born about 1844 in Cairo, Illinois. I would like to find out who her parents were. Dad born in Tennessee or Kentucky and Mom born in Scotland.

GROK:

Thought for 1m 27s – I’m sorry, but after extensive searches across genealogy databases, census collections (including the 1850 and 1860 U.S. Federal Censuses on sites like FamilySearch and Ancestry), and historical records for Alexander County, Illinois (where Cairo is located), I couldn’t locate a definitive match for Margaret Elizabeth Evans born around 1844 in Cairo with parents fitting your description (father from Tennessee or Kentucky, mother from Scotland).

What I Found and Why It Might Be Challenging:

No Direct Matches: Searches for variations like “Margaret E. Evans,” “Margaret Evans,” or “M. E. Evans” in Cairo/Alexander County around 1844 turned up several Margaret Evans in Illinois during that era, but none aligned with the birth location, approximate age, and parental birthplaces. For example:

A Margaret A. Evans (born ~1829 in Illinois) appears in an 1850 census household with Alexander Evans (born ~1795 in North Carolina) and Wilmeth Jackson Evans (born ~1807 in North Carolina) in Thebes Township, Alexander County. This family is close geographically, but the mother’s birthplace doesn’t match Scotland.
Other Evans families in the area (e.g., John Evans households) had daughters named Margaret, but ages and parental origins didn’t fit (e.g., mothers from Virginia or Ireland, fathers from Pennsylvania or Ohio).

Common Issues in 19th-Century Records:

Census indexing can be incomplete or error-prone due to handwriting (e.g., “Evans” as “Evens” or “Eavans”).
Cairo was a small, swampy river town in 1844 (population ~100), so families might appear under nearby townships like Thebes or Cache.

Birthplaces were often self-reported and approximate; “Scotland” could be listed as “Scot” or “British.”
Pre-1850 records rarely list children by name, so the 1850 census (when Margaret would be ~6) is key, but it requires manual browsing if not indexed well.

Recommendations for Next Steps:

To narrow this down, focus on primary sources. Here’s a step-by-step plan:

Search the 1850 U.S. Census for Alexander County, IL:

Use FamilySearch (free): Go to 1850 U.S. Census collection and filter for “Alexander, Illinois,” surname “Evans,” with a female child age 5-7. Then manually scan images for households with a wife born in Scotland and head born in TN/KY.
Or Ancestry (subscription): Search the 1850 Census with the same filters. Look for ~10-15 Evans households in the county.

Check 1860 Census for Margaret as a Teen:

She would be ~16. Search for “Margaret Evans” born ~1844 in Illinois, residing in Alexander County or nearby (e.g., Pulaski or Union Counties, as families moved). Parents might still be listed.

Other Records to Cross-Reference:

Marriage Records: Margaret likely married in the 1860s. Search Illinois marriage indexes on FamilySearch for “Margaret Evans” in Alexander County (1860-1870) to see if parents are named.

Illinois State Census (1855): Partial survival for Alexander County; available on Ancestry or FamilySearch. It lists household members and birthplaces.

Land/Probate Records: Cairo land office records (from 1810s) on Bureau of Land Management site (glorecords.blm.gov) for Evans in Alexander County—fathers often bought land.

Church/Death Records: Scottish immigrants often attended Presbyterian churches; check for Evans baptisms in Cairo area.

If you have additional details (e.g., Margaret’s spouse, children, or later residence), that could unlock more—share them, and I’ll dig deeper! Genealogy can be tricky, but persistence pays off.

Me:

Margaret married a man named Louis Soule and had a daughter, Minnie. That marriage failed and Margaret, “Maggie,” married George Washington Poole in Denver. Does this help?

GROK:

Thought for 1m 30s – Yes, those details were incredibly helpful—they unlocked the full profile for Margaret Elizabeth (Evans) Poole (1842–1930), confirming her identity and life story across multiple records. I’ll summarize what I found below, including her parents based on the 1850 U.S. Census match in Alexander County, IL (which aligns perfectly with your description of the father’s birthplace in Kentucky and mother’s in Scotland).

Confirmed Identity and Life Overview

Full Name and Birth: Margaret Elizabeth Evans, born February 1842 in Cairo, Alexander County, Illinois, USA.

Parents (from 1850 U.S. Census, Thebes Township, Alexander County, IL—household #143):

Father: John B. Evans, born ~1810 in Kentucky (farmer, age 40 in 1850).

Mother: Jane Evans, born ~1815 in Scotland (age 35 in 1850; immigrated likely in the 1830s–1840s, common for Scottish families settling in southern Illinois river towns like Cairo).

Siblings in the household: John (age 6, b. IL), Mary (age 4, b. IL), James (age 2, b. IL). The family lived in a modest farming household valued at $300, near the Mississippi River bluffs.

First Marriage and Daughter: Married Louis/Lewis Soule (~1862–1863, likely in Alexander or nearby Pulaski County, IL—no exact marriage record surfaced, but inferred from census and daughter’s birth). They had one daughter:

Minnie Vivian Soule (b. ~1865 in Illinois; later used Poole after stepfather). Minnie married and had descendants, but the union with Louis ended in divorce or separation by the late 1860s (Louis appears alone in later censuses).

Second Marriage: Married George Washington Poole (b. 1838 South Carolina, d. 1894 Pueblo, CO) on 10 October 1871 in Arapahoe County, Colorado (Denver area—record from Colorado State Archives). George was a Civil War veteran (Union, 5th Ohio Cavalry) and merchant who moved west for mining/business opportunities. They relocated to Pueblo by the 1880s.

Children with George: Three sons (all b. Colorado):

George Victor Poole (b. 1873 Denver).

John Ralph Poole (b. 1875 Denver).

Richard W. Poole (b. 1878 Pueblo).

Later Life and Death: “Maggie” (as she was known) lived in Pueblo, CO, after George’s death. She died 29 January 1930 in Pueblo (age 87) from natural causes and is buried in Roselawn Cemetery, Pueblo (Plot: Block F). No obituary details surfaced, but she outlived most of her children.

This information was very helpful in the areas of finding Margaret’s parents, which was the objective. However, the AI came up with some errors that disagree with other facts in my family tree. First, George W. was a Confederate soldier who was captured and served in a Union POW Camp in Illinois until his release post war and relocation to Colorado. Next, Maggie didn’t outlive any of her children save for Richard, who died at about age 6 in 1889. Minnie died in 1951, George died in 1950 and John (my grandpa) died in 1933, ten years prior to my birth. All three of Maggies sons were born in Pueblo, CO.

After the dialog posted above, GROK went on to present a myriad of things I can do to follow up on resurfacing more ancestors above the newly discovered great-great grandparents. When I get time, I may dive into some of those tips to see what comes out of it.

As an epilog to all this AI stuff, I thought I might like to see what my ancestors may have looked like. I asked the GROK AI to compose an 1850 image of John, his wife and their kids on the porch of the farmhouse. Maggie is in the blue dress (clickable).

And, lastly, I asked the GROK AI to take the only photo I have of Maggie and clean it up to reveal what she may have looked like in 1929 or so (clickable).

27th Wedding Anniversary

While the 27th anniversary is a significant milestone, our actual 45 years together speak to a deep, enduring love. This photo of us posing with our wedding cake at the Blue Parrot Restaurant in Avalon, Catalina Island, California, captures a special moment that holds a lot of meaning for us. It’s a reminder of the joy and celebration that marked the beginning of our wedded journey together — and the many more years of love, laughter, and shared memories that have followed.

What therefore God hath joined together, let not man put asunder. – Mark 10:9.

A Hardy Feast on Fathers Day

It is interesting that “Fathers Day” and “Hardy Feast” are anagrams of one another; that is, each phrase contains all the same letters in a different order.

In fact, the entire weekend – Friday the 13th, Flag Day and Fathers Day each featured a “Hardy Feast.” Patty Melts on Friday, a Seafood Bake on Flag Day and Surf and Turf with Beef Tenderloin Steaks (a.k.a. Filet Mignon) and Salmon Steaks served with a green salad on Fathers Day.

Happy Fathers Day to all the Dads, Granddads and Great Grandads out there. If there are any Great-Great Granddads left, then a special shout out to y’all.

Tate

Welcome to our *fifth* great grandchild, Tate. He was born on the 2nd of March in Sacramento, California, to our youngest granddaughter and her husband. Tate is the first child to be born to the couple.

Our other four great grandchildren ranging in age from five to ten years, are also in California, in and around the Santa Rosa area. Two boys belong to our eldest granddaughter living in Windsor and two girls belong to the middle of the three granddaughters living in Rohnert Park.

We have met and held the three older kids, but have yet to see the younger two in person. Perhaps in our upcoming travels we may finally get to see them all.

Both photos above were taken of Tate with his mom before coming home from the hospital. Click on either image to view enlarged.

Happy Thanksgiving 2024!

Happy Thanksgiving!

As we gather around the table today, we are reminded of the countless blessings in our lives—our families, friends, and the love that surrounds us. May we take this time to reflect on God’s grace and the many gifts He has given us.

Let us give thanks for the strength of our bonds, the beauty of shared moments, and the joy that comes from loving one another. May this season of gratitude inspire us to live with compassion, generosity, and faith.

Wishing you all a blessed Thanksgiving filled with love, peace, and happiness!

Enter His gates with thanksgiving, and His courts with praise. Give thanks to Him and praise His name. For the LORD is good and His love endures forever; His faithfulness continues through all generations.

— Psalm 100:4-5

Ancestry Anomalies – Part 3
More than “Kissin'” Cousins

This is the third post regarding anomalies in our family tree. I discovered that my 3rd Great Grandmother, Sarah Ann Fleming, had parents that were first(!) cousins to each other. In the tree segment below, you may notice a bunch of “Fleming” surnames. The Fleming Clan (literally, a clan) originated in Scotland in the 14/1500’s; our branch of the clan settled into what is now West Virginia.

Looking at the family tree segment you will see Sarah Ann linked to her parents Alexander and Mary Eliza Fleming, my 4th great grandparents. In the next column to the right you can see more Flemings; the names of interest here are Mary and Nathan Fleming who were brother and sister. Their parents were William Fleming and Jane Frame who appear at my 6th Grandparent level twice. Of note, Alexander Fleming at top right was a Fleming, but only distantly related to William; as a consequence of this distance, Matthew Fleming who married Mary Fleming, was probably only her distant cousin.

I asked ChatGPT how many ancestors a person has – this is the answer I got:

The number of ancestors a person has depends on how far back in their family tree you’re considering and whether there is any overlap due to shared ancestors. Each generation back doubles the number of ancestors because each person has two parents, four grandparents, eight great-grandparents, and so on.

For example:

  • You have 2 parents.
  • You have 4 grandparents.
  • You have 8 great-grandparents.
  • You have 16 great-great-grandparents.

So, if you go back 10 generations, you would theoretically have 2^10 = 1,024 direct ancestors. However, this is a simplified model because it doesn’t account for intermarriages or instances where distant relatives are common to multiple lines of descent, which can reduce the actual number of unique ancestors. Additionally, for practical reasons, tracing back all lineages accurately for many generations is often impossible due to missing records or incomplete genealogical data

There was no mention of the fact that if you go back in the progression 2^x that eventually the number would exceed the entire population of the planet. That’s an interesting concept.

Great Grandkids

In the photo above, Mikey (5) and Alex (9), our two great grandsons are enjoying a carnival ride somewhere in Northern California. (Photo courtesy of Granddaughter Anna.) The boys look like they’re having a bit of fun out there.

The big news, however, is that today is Alex’s 9th Birthday. Anna sent me this photo of him and his birthday cake. Looking all smiles and handsome, Alex will be getting a new pair of rollerblades and numerous other goodies for his 9th. Happy Birthday, Alex!

We really miss the great grandkids, the boys above and the two girls, who all live near each other in the Santa Rosa, California area. We, however, no longer travel to that area because both Damsel and I carry concealed sidearms for self protection all the time and cannot carry in California because of their insane (and unconstitutional) gun restrictions. That may be resolved one of these years, but we’re not holding our breath.

Perhaps we can convince our (broke in California) three Granddaughters and their significant others to bring the Kids to Arizona for a visit. We will probably wind up helping them to “foot the bill” for all the travel expenses, but it would be worth it to us to see them all again.

Meanwhile, Happy Birthday to Alex and many happy returns!