Ancestors

Genealogy and AI

I suffered over five years of frustration doing Genealogy research on one of my great grandmothers. Ancestry.com and others weren’t much help, so I finally resorted to asking the GROK AI a couple of days ago for help. It went like this:

Me:

Margaret Elizabeth Evans Born about 1844 in Cairo, Illinois. I would like to find out who her parents were. Dad born in Tennessee or Kentucky and Mom born in Scotland.

GROK:

Thought for 1m 27s – I’m sorry, but after extensive searches across genealogy databases, census collections (including the 1850 and 1860 U.S. Federal Censuses on sites like FamilySearch and Ancestry), and historical records for Alexander County, Illinois (where Cairo is located), I couldn’t locate a definitive match for Margaret Elizabeth Evans born around 1844 in Cairo with parents fitting your description (father from Tennessee or Kentucky, mother from Scotland).

What I Found and Why It Might Be Challenging:

No Direct Matches: Searches for variations like “Margaret E. Evans,” “Margaret Evans,” or “M. E. Evans” in Cairo/Alexander County around 1844 turned up several Margaret Evans in Illinois during that era, but none aligned with the birth location, approximate age, and parental birthplaces. For example:

A Margaret A. Evans (born ~1829 in Illinois) appears in an 1850 census household with Alexander Evans (born ~1795 in North Carolina) and Wilmeth Jackson Evans (born ~1807 in North Carolina) in Thebes Township, Alexander County. This family is close geographically, but the mother’s birthplace doesn’t match Scotland.
Other Evans families in the area (e.g., John Evans households) had daughters named Margaret, but ages and parental origins didn’t fit (e.g., mothers from Virginia or Ireland, fathers from Pennsylvania or Ohio).

Common Issues in 19th-Century Records:

Census indexing can be incomplete or error-prone due to handwriting (e.g., “Evans” as “Evens” or “Eavans”).
Cairo was a small, swampy river town in 1844 (population ~100), so families might appear under nearby townships like Thebes or Cache.

Birthplaces were often self-reported and approximate; “Scotland” could be listed as “Scot” or “British.”
Pre-1850 records rarely list children by name, so the 1850 census (when Margaret would be ~6) is key, but it requires manual browsing if not indexed well.

Recommendations for Next Steps:

To narrow this down, focus on primary sources. Here’s a step-by-step plan:

Search the 1850 U.S. Census for Alexander County, IL:

Use FamilySearch (free): Go to 1850 U.S. Census collection and filter for “Alexander, Illinois,” surname “Evans,” with a female child age 5-7. Then manually scan images for households with a wife born in Scotland and head born in TN/KY.
Or Ancestry (subscription): Search the 1850 Census with the same filters. Look for ~10-15 Evans households in the county.

Check 1860 Census for Margaret as a Teen:

She would be ~16. Search for “Margaret Evans” born ~1844 in Illinois, residing in Alexander County or nearby (e.g., Pulaski or Union Counties, as families moved). Parents might still be listed.

Other Records to Cross-Reference:

Marriage Records: Margaret likely married in the 1860s. Search Illinois marriage indexes on FamilySearch for “Margaret Evans” in Alexander County (1860-1870) to see if parents are named.

Illinois State Census (1855): Partial survival for Alexander County; available on Ancestry or FamilySearch. It lists household members and birthplaces.

Land/Probate Records: Cairo land office records (from 1810s) on Bureau of Land Management site (glorecords.blm.gov) for Evans in Alexander County—fathers often bought land.

Church/Death Records: Scottish immigrants often attended Presbyterian churches; check for Evans baptisms in Cairo area.

If you have additional details (e.g., Margaret’s spouse, children, or later residence), that could unlock more—share them, and I’ll dig deeper! Genealogy can be tricky, but persistence pays off.

Me:

Margaret married a man named Louis Soule and had a daughter, Minnie. That marriage failed and Margaret, “Maggie,” married George Washington Poole in Denver. Does this help?

GROK:

Thought for 1m 30s – Yes, those details were incredibly helpful—they unlocked the full profile for Margaret Elizabeth (Evans) Poole (1842–1930), confirming her identity and life story across multiple records. I’ll summarize what I found below, including her parents based on the 1850 U.S. Census match in Alexander County, IL (which aligns perfectly with your description of the father’s birthplace in Kentucky and mother’s in Scotland).

Confirmed Identity and Life Overview

Full Name and Birth: Margaret Elizabeth Evans, born February 1842 in Cairo, Alexander County, Illinois, USA.

Parents (from 1850 U.S. Census, Thebes Township, Alexander County, IL—household #143):

Father: John B. Evans, born ~1810 in Kentucky (farmer, age 40 in 1850).

Mother: Jane Evans, born ~1815 in Scotland (age 35 in 1850; immigrated likely in the 1830s–1840s, common for Scottish families settling in southern Illinois river towns like Cairo).

Siblings in the household: John (age 6, b. IL), Mary (age 4, b. IL), James (age 2, b. IL). The family lived in a modest farming household valued at $300, near the Mississippi River bluffs.

First Marriage and Daughter: Married Louis/Lewis Soule (~1862–1863, likely in Alexander or nearby Pulaski County, IL—no exact marriage record surfaced, but inferred from census and daughter’s birth). They had one daughter:

Minnie Vivian Soule (b. ~1865 in Illinois; later used Poole after stepfather). Minnie married and had descendants, but the union with Louis ended in divorce or separation by the late 1860s (Louis appears alone in later censuses).

Second Marriage: Married George Washington Poole (b. 1838 South Carolina, d. 1894 Pueblo, CO) on 10 October 1871 in Arapahoe County, Colorado (Denver area—record from Colorado State Archives). George was a Civil War veteran (Union, 5th Ohio Cavalry) and merchant who moved west for mining/business opportunities. They relocated to Pueblo by the 1880s.

Children with George: Three sons (all b. Colorado):

George Victor Poole (b. 1873 Denver).

John Ralph Poole (b. 1875 Denver).

Richard W. Poole (b. 1878 Pueblo).

Later Life and Death: “Maggie” (as she was known) lived in Pueblo, CO, after George’s death. She died 29 January 1930 in Pueblo (age 87) from natural causes and is buried in Roselawn Cemetery, Pueblo (Plot: Block F). No obituary details surfaced, but she outlived most of her children.

This information was very helpful in the areas of finding Margaret’s parents, which was the objective. However, the AI came up with some errors that disagree with other facts in my family tree. First, George W. was a Confederate soldier who was captured and served in a Union POW Camp in Illinois until his release post war and relocation to Colorado. Next, Maggie didn’t outlive any of her children save for Richard, who died at about age 6 in 1889. Minnie died in 1951, George died in 1950 and John (my grandpa) died in 1933, ten years prior to my birth. All three of Maggies sons were born in Pueblo, CO.

After the dialog posted above, GROK went on to present a myriad of things I can do to follow up on resurfacing more ancestors above the newly discovered great-great grandparents. When I get time, I may dive into some of those tips to see what comes out of it.

As an epilog to all this AI stuff, I thought I might like to see what my ancestors may have looked like. I asked the GROK AI to compose an 1850 image of John, his wife and their kids on the porch of the farmhouse. Maggie is in the blue dress (clickable).

And, lastly, I asked the GROK AI to take the only photo I have of Maggie and clean it up to reveal what she may have looked like in 1929 or so (clickable).

Vacation Summary

Here’s the rundown of the summer 2025 excursion; we traveled through twenty-one of the of the forty-eight contiguous states and camped in all but four of them (Illinois, Maryland, Tennessee, Texas). We enjoyed much scenery, local culture, oddities, skyscapes and other interesting landmarks. The map below shows the states in which we traveled and/or camped.

Clickable map created with MAPCHART.NET

We won’t get into all of the details about the numerous places visited and all that, but will summarize by saying that we visited the resting places of several ancestors and visited the birthplaces of some of them and their ancestors. We were gratified to enjoy the changes in climate, vegetation, livestock and other interesting flora and fauna along the way.

Here’s the specific itinerary of each leg of the trip; not mentioned is the duration of each stop, but you will get the idea of the magnitude of our travels on this trip. We left home on July 8th and returned on August 12th, a total of five weeks.

  1. Wickenburg to Monument Valley, Utah
  2. Monument Valley to Grand Junction, Colorado
  3. Grand Junction to Cañon City, Colorado
  4. Cañon City to Limon, Colorado
  5. Limon to WaKeeney, Kansas
  6. WaKeeney to Lawrence, Kansas
  7. Lawrence to Poplar Bluff, Missouri
  8. Poplar Bluff to Paducah, Kentucky
  9. Paducah to Salt Lick, Kentucky
  10. Salt Lick to Sutton, West Virginia
  11. Sutton to Morgantown, West Virginia
  12. Morgantown to Shenandoah Valley, Virginia
  13. Shenandoah Valley to Greensboro, North Carolina
  14. Greensboro to Wilmington, North Carolina
  15. Wilmington to Charleston, South Carolina
  16. Charleston to Kingsland, Georgia
  17. Kingsland to Tallahassee, Florida
  18. Tallahassee to Montgomery, Alabama
  19. Montgomery to Starkville, Mississippi
  20. Starkville to West Memphis, Arkansas
  21. West Memphis to Horseshoe Bend, Arkansas
  22. Horseshoe Bend to Eureka Springs, Arkansas
  23. Eureka Springs to Lake Eufaula, Oklahoma
  24. Lake Eufaula, to Elk City, Oklahoma
  25. Elk City to Tucumcari, New Mexico
  26. Tucumcari to Albuquerque, New Mexico
  27. Albuquerque to Holbrook, Arizona
  28. Holbrook to Wickenburg, Arizona

Even though we have most of the comforts of home in our motorhome, there is something to be said about being at home and enjoying the good retirement life without the chores of setting up and tearing down while on the road and the sometimes tedious driving between campsites in the various weather conditions. It’s good to be home.

Completing Another Orbit

Well, my 82nd birthday finds us in West Virginia, which happens to be a place where of one of the branches of my ancestors can be traced back to the family’s original immigrants who arrived in what was then the Virginia Colony. They prospered after lots of hard work and were actually pioneers to the area.

We will pass through Barrackville, WV, tomorrow on the way to our next campsite in Morgantown. My paternal grandmother was born in Barrackville and her grandfather and possibly more ancestors are buried here. We visited grandmother’s grave in Pueblo CO, a few days ago.

So, we’re camped here in Sutton, WV, and as a celebration of the special day, we grilled a couple of petite Filet Mignon Steaks and Damsel prepared a wonderful Romaine salad as an accompaniment. It was a good day.

Clickable Images.

Retirement Milestone Fifteen

Today marks the fifteenth anniversary of my official retirement. I say “official” because I had already retired ten years prior, but returned to the workforce at another company to continue my career in aerospace. This turned out to be an important step in building up our “nest egg” savings in the new company’s 401K program. I believe we were able to put away about a quarter of our income during those final ten years, with much of the savings “sheltered” from the IRS. That was a good thing.

So, in the coming year, we are contemplating more travel in the big RV. We both have ancestors in many states and we would like to travel to our places of origin – at least on this continent, since many ancestors further up the family trees were from European nations which we would like to visit but are unable at this time. First things first – we will visit the places we can by motorhome. As for the motorhome, we have several maintenance items and improvements to accomplish beforehand.

As we prepare for more years of retirement, we are placing our efforts in God’s Hands to provide for us as He has in the past. We anticipate that this coming year will be as blessed as our first fifteen years of retirement.

p.s. Register to vote and then vote. Bring ten other voters with you. This could be the most important election in the history of the Republic (NOT a democracy, but a REPUBLIC, if we can keep it).

Beltane — Celtic Feast Day

This is the weekend in May where we celebrate two nearly concurrent feasts. Today is the first feast in celebration of the Celtic Cross-Quarter day of Beltane, or, the beginning of the summer season. I will post about the other feast we celebrate this weekend tomorrow.

The (clickable) image above is a scene generated by Microsoft’s Copilot AI image creator. I suggested a pastoral Irish Festival scene and this is what it came up with. I overlaid the Beltane text using an old 3D graphics program by Xara. The original AI-generated image without the overly can be seen here.

Our feast today consisted of “Guinness Meat Stew” from a recipe the Damsel found on-line. It was indeed a feast.

Ancestry Anomalies – Part 3
More than “Kissin'” Cousins

This is the third post regarding anomalies in our family tree. I discovered that my 3rd Great Grandmother, Sarah Ann Fleming, had parents that were first(!) cousins to each other. In the tree segment below, you may notice a bunch of “Fleming” surnames. The Fleming Clan (literally, a clan) originated in Scotland in the 14/1500’s; our branch of the clan settled into what is now West Virginia.

Looking at the family tree segment you will see Sarah Ann linked to her parents Alexander and Mary Eliza Fleming, my 4th great grandparents. In the next column to the right you can see more Flemings; the names of interest here are Mary and Nathan Fleming who were brother and sister. Their parents were William Fleming and Jane Frame who appear at my 6th Grandparent level twice. Of note, Alexander Fleming at top right was a Fleming, but only distantly related to William; as a consequence of this distance, Matthew Fleming who married Mary Fleming, was probably only her distant cousin.

I asked ChatGPT how many ancestors a person has – this is the answer I got:

The number of ancestors a person has depends on how far back in their family tree you’re considering and whether there is any overlap due to shared ancestors. Each generation back doubles the number of ancestors because each person has two parents, four grandparents, eight great-grandparents, and so on.

For example:

  • You have 2 parents.
  • You have 4 grandparents.
  • You have 8 great-grandparents.
  • You have 16 great-great-grandparents.

So, if you go back 10 generations, you would theoretically have 2^10 = 1,024 direct ancestors. However, this is a simplified model because it doesn’t account for intermarriages or instances where distant relatives are common to multiple lines of descent, which can reduce the actual number of unique ancestors. Additionally, for practical reasons, tracing back all lineages accurately for many generations is often impossible due to missing records or incomplete genealogical data

There was no mention of the fact that if you go back in the progression 2^x that eventually the number would exceed the entire population of the planet. That’s an interesting concept.

Samhain Weekend

Most of you by now know that Damsel and I share ancestry originating from the Celtic tribes of ancient Ireland and Scotland. To that effect, we have come to celebrate some of the festivals and traditions of the Celts. This weekend, we decided to celebrate the festival of Samhain.

Samhain, (Celtic: “End of Summer”) in ancient Celtic religion, one of the most important and sinister calendar festivals of the year. At Samhain, held on November 1, the world of the gods was believed to be made visible to humankind, and the gods played many tricks on their mortal worshippers; it was a time fraught with danger, charged with fear, and full of supernatural episodes.

Sacrifices and propitiations of every kind were thought to be vital, for without them the Celts believed they could not prevail over the perils of the season or counteract the activities of the deities. Samhain was an important precursor to Halloween.

Of course, we are not Pagans and don’t believe in all the spooky stuff the Celts thought to be true. We are Christians and merely celebrate our heritage while being true to the One and Only God. We celebrate Samhain on the first Sunday of November with traditional Irish and/or Scottish feasting.

This weekend turned out to be atypical weather for November since it got up to 85°F on the patio today. We celebrated the Samhain cross-quarter event with an actual Feast – Corned Beef, Cabbage, Root Veggies (lo carb, of course) and an Irish Coffee.

We hope everyone enjoys the good weather while it lasts.